This is getting stranger and stranger.
I was able to open both your workspaces. Nothing wrong in them. So it might be a problem of permission (read and write).
Can you please:
I installed (drag and drop) in the /Applications folder.
All other applications are there and work well.
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro ~ % cd /Users/takuyaimahori/OMWorkspace6_0
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro OMWorkspace6_0 % ls -la
total 20168
drwxr-xr-x 16 takuyaimahori staff 512 11 13 13:40 .
drwxr-xr-x+ 41 takuyaimahori staff 1312 2 26 09:39 …
-rwxr-xr-x 1 takuyaimahori staff 14340 2 24 09:26 .DS_Store
drwxr-xr-x 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 11 12 22:12 Libraries
drwxr-xr-x 2 takuyaimahori staff 64 5 13 2019 diphfolder
drwxr-xr-x 55 takuyaimahori staff 1760 11 12 22:13 elements
-rw-r–r-- 1 takuyaimahori staff 10295405 8 14 2017 elements.zip
drwxr-xr-x 2 takuyaimahori staff 64 5 13 2019 globals
drwxr-xr-x 131 takuyaimahori staff 4192 7 13 2019 in-files
drwxr-xr-x 37 takuyaimahori staff 1184 11 13 12:20 old-lib
drwxr-xr-x 30 takuyaimahori staff 960 7 21 2023 out-files
-rw-r–r–@ 1 takuyaimahori staff 3889 11 13 13:40 preferences.lisp
drwxr-xr-x 6 takuyaimahori staff 192 11 13 00:33 resources
drwxr-xr-x 4 takuyaimahori staff 128 11 13 12:21 user
-rwxr-xr-x 1 takuyaimahori staff 121 11 17 2008 userpackage.lisp
-rw-r–r–@ 1 takuyaimahori staff 92 11 13 13:40 wsparams.lisp
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro OMWorkspace6_0 %
Hello Karim,
This is similar if not identical to the problem I am getting since OM7 and that where discussed in other threads.
Since I am getting the same behaviour described in this and previous threads (I just tested the 7.4 version you linked here) I am also sending you the output of “ls -la” from my workspace directory:
gonnos:Workspaces Claudio$ ls -la
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 8 Claudio staff 256 Feb 26 11:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 Claudio staff 192 Feb 5 16:29 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Claudio staff 14340 Feb 26 11:24 .DS_Store
drwxr-xr-x 9 Claudio staff 288 Nov 25 15:57 LearningOM
drwxr-xr-x 12 Claudio staff 384 Feb 26 10:31 Master-2_workspace
drwxr-xr-x 9 Claudio staff 288 Nov 25 15:57 OpenMusic_6
drwxr-xr-x@ 11 Claudio staff 352 Feb 5 18:43 Spectral_Notator
drwxr-xr-x@ 11 Claudio staff 352 Feb 26 11:12 hellothere
the last workspace “hellothere” is created in OM7.4, all the others are created from OM6.20 or previous and run fine in OM6.20 but not 7.x… Note that workspaces created in 7.x are not loaded properly in 7.x but can be loaded, modified and saved correctly in 6.20.
I can send you the recursive (-laR) execution of the ls command as well if you wish, but nothing looks different from my OM6 workspaces.
This indeed looks very strange!
Dear Claudio,
Thank you for reporting. Can you just tell me on what OS you are using? sonoma or ventura?
Best
K
I’m on Ventura (13.6.4).
All the best,
(Lorenzo)
This article looks like the same problem.
I did the same action as you wrote above, deleted the preference.lisp file. But still my OM does not open any workspaces.
Same for me, I have tried that as well and it’s not working any better…
Hi All,
Please be advised, the mentioned above post concerns a totally different situation and it is one years old.
However, what i assume is that most of you having these problems are on Ventura, is it the case?
Best
K
Hi Karim, yes, I am currently using MacOS Ventura 13.6.4
Dear Karim,
still my OpenMusic does not work.
I tested both OM 7.3 and OM 7.4
In the list of full disk access in the system preferences of Mac OS, it appears only OM 7.4 but not again 7.3.
After the first dialog (previous workspace - cannot choose, open a workspace, create a new workspace), I chose create a new workspace. OM 7.4 does not create a workspace. OM 7.3 create it, but not open the window. Anyway, I can open the workspace window with a left click on the icon in the dock. So I created a new patch. Then, I can put lisp objects (+, list, cdr etc.) with typing, but not any OM objects both class and function. (note, chord, … OM+, arithm-seretc.), but these OM objects can put with choosing from the menu, Anyway, it works to evaluate (for example, note E4 (6400) OM+ 500 = note A4 (6900) etc.). And then, when I wanted to save the workspace, it appears the arror and it cannot save.
ERROR: No applicable methods for #<standard-generic-function |OpenMusic|::get-elements 80E0BF39DC> with args (nil)
With this situation, I can work nothing with OM ;-(
Now I am composing a symphony for large orchestra which will be premiered in next November, so I really need to calculate chord and time system with OpenMusic. (otherwise, finally it’s time to switch my algorithmic composition environment, leaving OM to Bach)
Could you give me a solution?
Thank you very much,
Takuya
Dear Takuya,
I am sorry for the troubles you are having. I don’t understand why it doesn’t work.
One thing i don’t understand is:
“I can open the workspace window with a left click on the icon in the dock. So I created a new patch.”
What Icon you are talking about here?
Can you please:
send me the result.
Then can you send me the folder Library/Preferences/OpenMusic (zipped) so i can see what’s wrong here.
Certainly there is a read/write problem.
Best
K
Dear Karim,
suddenly, the OM 7.4 launched well with my workspace as I have used several years. I have done solutions as I wrote above yesterday.
Anyway I will reply to your requests;
The icon of OM in the Dock of the MacOS means; (image)
the result of the terminal:
Last login: Mon Mar 4 17:32:14 on console
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro ~ % cd Library/Preferences
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro Preferences % ls -la OpenMusic
total 16
drwxr-xr-x 11 takuyaimahori staff 352 2 25 23:46 .
drwx------ 445 takuyaimahori staff 14240 3 4 17:52 …
-rw-r–r–@ 1 takuyaimahori staff 6148 2 18 15:57 .DS_Store
drwxr-xr-x 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 10 21 2019 6.14.1
drwxr-xr-x 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 10 2 2020 6.16
drwxr-xr-x 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 2 25 2022 6.20
drwxr-xr-x 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 10 29 2022 7.0
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 7 7 2023 7.1
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 7 21 2023 7.2
drwxr-xr-x@ 4 takuyaimahori staff 128 2 23 23:59 7.3
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 takuyaimahori staff 96 3 4 17:41 7.4
takuyaimahori@TAKUYAnoMacBook-Pro Preferences %
Anyway, now my OpenMusic is working well (I don’t know why).
Thank you very much Karim for checking this conversation.
If OM will not work again, I will write here.
Best,
Takuya
Dear Takuya,
Happy to know this is working now. As I said I suspect it is a permission issue.
Did you upgrade your system?
Best
K
I always use 13.6.4 nothing to change the OS.
At first when you said full disk access, the OM that I add to the list was 7.3. Then you gave me 7.4. I checked again the list of full disk access. The OM on that list was automatically renamed as OM 7.4. Then that new OM 7.4 couldn’t create a new workspace. So I doubted that the name of the list of full disk access was not really 7.4, but it misrepresents “7.4” and in the reality it was 7.3…?
So, when I re-checked 2 days ago, I erased OM 7.4 the list of full disk access, and added it again with the real 7.4 application file. This is perhaps because of this, I think.
T
My above comment was not from my home. I was outside and wrote there by iPhone.
Now, I came back to home. I launched MacOS with Firefox and Sibelius, then OM 7.4. It blocked again!!
I restarted my Mac, then at first I started OM 7.4 without any other applications. It began well, and I can open my patches.
After that, I started also Firefox (for writing this), and Sibelius. Until now all of them work well included OM.
Again OM doesn’t launch after using 3 hours of my Mac, mainly Sibelius, Firefox and Numbers. I restart the system, then at first I launch OM, and it works now. This is a report.
Il semble qu’OpenMusic rencontre toujours des problèmes malgré la désactivation et la suppression de Google Drive. Étant donné que cela a fonctionné auparavant après avoir désactivé Google Drive, il est possible que quelque chose d’autre interfère maintenant. Voici quelques étapes à essayer :
~/.opmo, qui stocke les préférences de l’espace de travail. Cela peut réinitialiser les paramètres de l’espace de travail.Si aucune de ces étapes ne fonctionne, une réinstallation d’OM ou u
Thank you for your precious information, But i think you are an AI,
So you don’t need my help I presume…
Hello again Karim,
I don’t know if you where able to reproduce the error and/or find a fix for this?
It is still happening to me on OM 8.0. Same cases and same error messages.
I am on the same machine (apple Intel running OS 13.7.8, a.k.a. the most recent OS I can install), and still using exclusively OM version 6.20. I would love to update to a more recent one, but they all give the same error and don’t launch properly.
Let me know if I can do anything to help solve this mystery issue,
(Lorenzo)
Dear Lorenzo,
I cannot reproduce the error since this is specific to Ventura. And i don’t have a mac running this OS. The problem cease to exist if you upgrade your OS.
OM 8 will not run correctly on this OS. It is the only OS that seems problematic since apple changed and corrected some graphic routines that doesn’t work well With LispWorks.
I am sorry but if you need to use the latest OM, it would be better to upgrade your OS.
Best Regards
Karim