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Doubt about gain and delay messages in spat5.align~

Hi all,
In the attached patch, it seems to me that the messages output by spat5.align~ contain no indication of whether gain calculation is enabled or disabled. Am I missing something?


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Hi Lorenzo,

This information is sent through the second outlet of spat5.speaker.config. (see attached patcher)

Also : I would not recommend to use spat5.speaker.config AND spat5.align~ concomitantly:

  • spat5.align~ can only be “off” or “auto”; it does not support “manual” mode. So this could cause confusion.
  • spat5.speaker.config is already able to internally compute the necessary gains/delays. So this can be used directly (see [p “speaker alignment”] in the help patcher)

I dont know if this clarifies ?

Best,
T.


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