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setpitchbend example

Modalys beta
#1

Hi All,

what am I missing in the embedded patch to make the “setpichbend” message work?

  
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#2

pitchbend, not pichbend…

#3

…just copied it from the release notes…and it’s without “t” there too :wink:

#4

is there a method to tune exactly semitones from setpitchbend?

#5

The “setpitchbend” feature is really useful (I should say of extreme importance) for who utilises modalys in realtime. It can solve the old problem of changing resonator’s pitch in systems of patch where the pitch is dynamically varied (and if you want to use modalys in a real musical context, you just need that!)
This feature simply allows you to change resonator’s pitch WITHOUT recalculating its modes and avoiding alternative tricks.

So, I stress the accent on a desiderata: why don’t create a STANDARD feature, using the same principe, but giving the user the possibility to tune (to flex the pitch) indicating this in cents, for example?
let’s say something like: setpitchcents between -1200 and 1200?
or a setpitchbend with the possibility to indicate the interval in cents?

this would be really useful for all.

thanks

#6

Very good idea.
The [-1…+1] interval is a bit strange and no one (but me) knows what it does…

So if no one screams at this new idea, I will change the pitchbend parameter to be in cents in the next beta, with p ∈ [-1200, 1200].
The message name also should be changed, I think (pitchbend being too much MIDI related), and setpitchcents is a good idea.

I am also considering to add a public controller to any object, so one could control the modulate the pitch with messages like:

Plate@pitchcents $1

(in that case the specific message setpichcents would’nt be necessary)

What do you guys think?

R.

#7

This would be really great, Robert! A public controller in cents for people who want to control pitch precisely and a setpitchbend message for people who need only blending the note.
I always prefer to vary musical parameters using a pertinent unit of measure, not a generic -1…+1 that doesn’t make much sense to the user.
The name of the message is not important to me but its function and it’s correct intonation!

To be more clear: using modalys~ in “real musical life” (implying polyphony, multiple instruments and multilayered resonators) means managing and varying dynamically pitches or sizes of the resonators, re-allocating them without artifacts or clicks.
I personally use a workaround to solve the instrument instantiation problem, moreover I implemented constant micro-variations in the pitch of the resonator while playing (this provokes a more natural feeling for the musician). All this is CPU demanding.
So, having the possibility to vary the tuning of the resonator with less CPU usage would help us to build better instruments and better music :wink:

L

#8

Robert,
i’m making cpu tests varying the setpitchbend parameter continuously…and it’s really great!
only 1% more in cpu utilization! it means : this is the way to go.
great job!
this is the best present of 2014!

#9

to make an example: normally moving an access continuously adds 6-8% cpu utilization…
here we are varying the perceived pitch of the resonator without clicks and almost no cpu charge!
this solves one of the main problems in using modalys in realtime

#10

Great news! Thanks for this report.
Robert

#11

when sending a conflicting object name appending the setpitchbend message max crashes
Example:
{setpitchbend RectPlate .5} while the message should be {setpitchbend Mono-String .5}
Not a big issue but a bit silly though.

#12

i wait the next release to make more tests for the setpitchbend in midicents and the cpu usage problem…

Robert let us know