Hi once more,
It the OMKant library still alive? Is there something else instead? I do not see any documentation about it.
It would be great to have an answer
best, v
Hi once more,
It the OMKant library still alive? Is there something else instead? I do not see any documentation about it.
It would be great to have an answer
best, v
No OMKANT is not alive no more. In another sense it’s dead…
However , something must be done i agree. Restoring the pw-kant library could be a good idea…
The trouble with it , is that it relies on some GUI code. and since OM has seen a lot of changes do to compilers (mcl, alegro then lispworks) there is a BIG issue with compatibility. It seems that the easy way, is not the right way…
Best
K
@VykintasB: you could check the segmentation-mode for the various editors, and an article by Jean and C. Pérez Sancho demonstrating an alternative approach:
Indeed there’s a new system in OM 6.6/6.7 that allows you to define segments in a chord-seq and perform quantification (with different parameters) on the different segments.
Select “segmentation” mode in the Chord-seq and “add new analysis” => kant-seg) [ see http://repmus.ircam.fr/openmusic/dev-resources/analysis for more details or the paper pointed in Anders’ post]
This reminds to some of the features previously available in OMKant (not all of them, of course).
We’d be interested to know what specific features from OMKant would be of a particular interest and consider new implementations in the future.
Jean
Thank you for your answers.
OMKant was a very strong concept, which proposed different approaches based on different criteria. It was useful to find a (or adapt to the) tempo based on rhythm, accents, pitches, etc. The OMquantify object is very weak in compare to it.
I did try the “segmentation” mode in Chord-seq which was referred by Anders and Jean, and read the article Jean recommended. It is definitely a much more intelligent solution in compare to the OMquantify box, but it is not working either… I did try the way described in 5.2 (http://articles.ircam.fr/textes/Bresson12c/index.pdf), however I am getting an error while extracting analysis segments’ data (figure 14). The objects were passing to the concatenate-kant-voices object (a doc somewhere?), but stopping at the list-elements with error “no method is defined for these types in box LIST-ELEMENTS”.
Any ideas?
I was also considering a possibility to export the results (as simple chord-seqs) to OM 5.2. No luck so far: a patch (.omp) from 6.7 is not accepted in 5.2, the OM instance not implemented yet…
Maybe I am missing something. I would be glad to keep working with a modern version of OM and not being forced to go back to 5.2.
(We moved away from the original theme. Is here a way to change the change the title of the topic? Other people could find it useful)
updated
oh, I see that the “segmentation” mode in Chord-seq works if I skip the LIST-ELEMENTS object and connect the concatenate-kant-voices object directly to the voice.
Hi, meanwhile I was playing a little bit with the quantization using the new implementation of segmentation in Chord-seq, which is definitely an interesting approach.
However, it seems to be buggy. I attache here my simple example.
Basically, I am taking 4 notes from the voice object (tempo 60), import them to chord-seq, do segmentation and want to get it back, but as 2/4 + 2/4 instead of 4/4. Very simple test.
However, at the end of every segmentation I have now one 1/4 extra…
Am I doing something wrong?
by away, where could I download the last version with OMkant library (intel)?
hello?.. is the IRCAM-forum still alive or I am talking to myself?.. :)))
Where could I download the last version with OMkant library (intel)?
I hope this is nt a joke !
It has been answered already !
No OMKANT is not alive no more. In another sense it’s dead…
However , something must be done i agree. Restoring the pw-kant library could be a good idea….
The trouble with it , is that it relies on some GUI code. and since OM has seen a lot of changes do to compilers (mcl, alegro then lispworks) there is a BIG issue with compatibility. It seems that the easy way, is not the right way…Best
K
what is about the last version of OM with OMKANT? Where could I find it? is this intel compatible?
“A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away galaxy …”.
K