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Omquantify verbose missing (om 7.7)

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#1

Hello,

I’m trying the new OM 7.7. Congrats for the release! :slight_smile:

I am missing the omquantify’s “Warning: with the given constraints, ~D notes are lost while quantizing” message on the listener. Is there a way to have that warning back?

best
rc

#2

Dear rc0,

But yes of course. I have removed it since if you use quantification WITH grace notes, it will be useless. But of course, that you are right. I should be reactivating it again for those who don’t want to use grace notes. You;re right.

Will do and get back to you…

Best
K

#3

Just realized, if in the om preferences tab quantification you check off the “Grace Notes” option, you will get that message again.

SO i have to improve all this. Sorry

Best
K

#4

Dear K,

Thanks for the quick reply!
The solution in the preference tabs works and I can get the warning messages again :star_struck:
One thing that confuses me in your previous post is
"I have removed it since if you use quantification WITH grace notes, it will be useless. "
Afaik omquantify does not use grace notes (as opposite to omg-quantify which works great!) so what is the point of removing the warning message?

best
rc

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#5

Yes you are right, it is not clever. I will keep it either way. However, while using omg-quantify, the message could be confusing:
Screenshot_2025-12-17_16-50-36
Warning: with the given constraints, 2 notes are lost while quantizing

The 2 notes here are grace notes and they are not lost what makes the message weird. Don’t you think so?

Any suggestions?

BEst
K

#6

Dear K,

Thanks for asking and sorry for the late reply.

My suggestions would be:

  • keep warning message in omquantify
  • remove warning message from omg-quantify OR keep a warning telling how many duration are turned into grace-notes during quantification

Now, imo better would be to learn how to compute the threshold that omquantify and omg-quantify use to omit durations or represent them as grace-notes. By this, one could predict the result without relying on the warning message. What do you think?

best
rc

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#7

Dear rc,

Yes will do for the next release of course.

Concerning the the given info about how much “skips” there is of course a method to calculate it, but not in terms of a threshold since the quantifier works by grid and not linearly. If you’re interested about that tell me.

Best wishes
K

#8

Dear K,

Sure, I will be happy to learn how the grid quantifier works. Thanks!! :slight_smile:

best
rc

#9

Here an article pf the general concept behind omquantify:
Kant- a Critique of Pure Quantification (ICMC 94, Aarhus (Danemark), 1994). Médiathèque de l’Ircam © Ircam, 1996-2008 - Institut de Recherche et Coordination Acoustique-Musiq.pdf (280.8 KB)

best
k

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