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Mubu.concat~ audio triggering question

Hello,

I don’t understand how to set an audio signal both to trigger plyback and set the playback position/choose a marker. I have a feeling that some kind of sharp trigger is required but that simultaneously the amplitude of the signal represents the position in ms.

Is there a good description of the requirements somewhere?

Thank you.

Hi, the input signal in aligned mode needs to pass the marker time (in any direction) to trigger the segment.

It seems that one always needs a ramp, e.g. “0, 1 1” → line~ to trigger the first segment in the help.

Hello Diemo,

I don’t understand how to combine both constraints.

The signal value is the position. load concat help and try this snippet:


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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

Thank you Diemo.

I’ve tried approaching this with a rand~ but it seems that crossing a marker is not enough because in the patcher below increasing the frequency reduces the number of triggers per second instead of increasing them.


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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

So, I’ve tried this approach where the markers positions are stored in a buffer and triggered with index~ (FluCoMa’s fluid.buf2list is required). However I can’t get any output.


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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

you really need to pass by a marker within the signal vector, so a phasor~ is needed like here:
concat aligned play random segment.maxpat (35.1 KB)

With @aligned 0 @play 1 @microtiming 1, even higher trigger rates at sub-sample precision are achievable, but the choice of marker can only be done once per signal vector.

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Thank you Diemo!