< Back to IRCAM Forum

Catart-mubu-tutorial 2b resegment

catart-mubu
#1

Changing the length of a marker in “catart-mubu-tutorial 2b resegment.maxpat” does not work.
Actually, the shortcut should be Control-Option-Command.
(I forgot where I found that one, but, truly, information is scattered over too many places…).
Also, this shortcut is stated as being Option-Command in several places.

The duration changes automatically to the length between the two markers.
So setting the length does not work, and I don’t see why (bug?).

Also I don’t see why we need two buffers. See example “onseg-with-descr-then-edit-and-resegment”. I think it does the same thing with one buffer.

You can try the shortcut in the patch:


----------begin_max5_patcher----------
1168.3ockW0tbqxBD92IWEN96zLB984VoSmNnhFNGE7Evl1dldu+t.pQMlYx
IchUVfkce1mcYyeOdvuP7IU468KuW8Nb3uGObvJxH3v33C9cjOKaIJ6x7YcC
EC9mbyTNHUB46kLYYKkV0PKEsBoScnyAm7Ble.C8dausckUouX1RHrL27p9V
l98mSWUhNBiKGZox2+foXEsTydlTUwPcMUVdQHTvBTrusyhviSKoMLAe4FQ6
n2FIq5wJsnYqkt5wrkR6JnUKOBgjQ4ZhFrfkZWR3MT2AOYugwqQtY4ih6I5x
KLdy6RZodzPPQVCH.a9WTb14XXTVzBChzxZ3evnWKDC7J0RaPKDsED4d.iXP
2On0rNph1BG2FqezB4Thjpz+S7AiWMvY5UFBoPsWbkOzAFRKUqVZafLE85EJ
sUUJEss6XXNRWMqs8ege89MH50w0fCBVrLGkcJtfWsYmsXfyminrldsiyCHK
oq25EzUgskj1dghsM3rVy0KItAOFBVPH2wXFw0cXJjAs3dpEDg5aIkzKh1Jp
TcO05CR6vZ2pVRoeu2gxgTHdintVQWwZbJZW94Dy9YyZcrL8W8T2R88uMUOo
jo+xp8yOjlsNm2wSdX8laTk4RUSJ9Cpr.BaK2SofqYbCmuBB07lGQEl0U7t7
fkLEz5Bi2Q6Wx4eVHboo7r6wUv0WT76WxQX+ELJIEnCpKRhdEinmHIcTMbDT
NYCE0TiCvpZVyXLjwgEVCjPuNh7O.K7j2IOqg0Ipnv68RQCbJJqLujHuz.uT
LfNyyXWHDntIw6EXZFm.TtObWD5ghRl+FbFmmEDlexScgzS8TP02K5aroqLd
EnF1Zh9XJA3.bv81IEXYvCCHXLNIDEmlkGkFltRI+g90t032K7ORsmbMvg1q
T5SEIsUv2qXzVF+iqs3RltPc.1pNE3j9Il.JH3VZ3RN216T1zSfIZXIaEv0Z
BtxecJvpZjYlLfzwGK8xVxW.JuDBMvqUsljS+cLqms7qgzOzWM4k3E0Zf7en
CBmFvmfGu548FrQCGejY6exvZCA8ZkVNPAI9UCRWeGv6SkOeytRvSJns9Nkg
vfCmcZBZGssap6kMWbNONMKMJ.ngnrj7r36lMBRDPwHTd.NCcykO4klc1PbS
fEjBGddPhYa14wqOpP6dhROiihBxixhxRBAkAnvKVDxy09Sr88jnyHLFEhBi
RShSvfEEa0YvhhZ1n.FkDGFGEFFjFjkjXlKBmiBCyhyvIooHWvOX1CMthEfr
5CiOmCykhxcexfz8vr7yHPYgAInHTJXDfNRhyOGGAKCLA6m3IT1XIASgKS7Y
5aMSpzlW99JkosgQnJ12ByK+2.QCcS1YkB8p6BmfBZFXFQSjAC6v8282susK
2otxtkePj9apcL2H555U19v1QW0Ppt35ilcrmw6Z+atqpEM+w3a68i9IfFbR
6bSQHi7eNdz7v5u9j9d3VT0XcH6OuAPle6xAyNYGB2mZGZupDpAXpJ4VusYa
eBT3.P+R8fzgJelD461JbifjC3s6r+4n4Hs+vISoaETQcDFgee0weN9+.F6S
d5B
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
#2

I found the shortcut in 04.audio-and-markers.maxpat.
This should actually be in the imubu helpfile, for all interfaces.
That’s where I would look first.
But I guess you already thought of that :slight_smile:

#3

The duration was neither displayed nor used in that tut. Here is a complete one:
catart-mubu-tutorial 5c resegment+duration.maxpat (240.0 KB)

It is Cmd to add a new marker, Alt+Cmd and drag to change a marker’s length or to add a new marker and set its length (as documented in mubu help, markers view “How to edit”). We’ll correct 04.audio-and-markers, thanks!

#4

At some time Alt-Cmd dit not work here, now it does, as well as Ctl-Alt-Cmd.
I know about the shortcuts of all displays, it’s just that at one point, maybe related to this discarded folder in the Max for Live Projects folder, it did not work.

I don’t find this in the currenct patch, but I found this if you leave highlight on and display the markers:
Agreed that the green selection color makes it hard to judge the length if you make the duration shorter. But: if I set the green color to 100% transparent, I’m still left with a white selection. That looks like a bug.
(by the way, view_highlight_color is greyed out, but you can still set it, which is maybe also a bug).

If I remove the connection from highlight $1 @bufferindex $2 to prepend view #2 in camu.imubu.control, I can still see which segment I’m over, and you can also see how small the difference in color is when you change the duration. I cannot find a setting to change this contrast.
It also proves that the 100% transparency bug is in the highlight color.

It would also help if you could see the ‘current’ duration you are dragging to. Even in split view, the duration changes only if you ‘release’ the selection. Then you have to go back to the marker, in stead of being able to drag the right edge of the duration.
I guess that’s a feature request.

Thanks for the patch!

#5

hi,
to do this you can activate the continousediting attribute of imubu.

1 Like